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Learning skillovi.. ko ih izmisli!!

daklem ... learning skillovi povecavaju attribute, koji opet ubrzavaju uchenje.

Learning skillovi se dijele na:
Learning skill
low learning skillove
high learning skillove

Learning skill - ubrzava treniranja svih learning skillova.. po definiciji, daje 2% svim attributima, njega treba prvog izuchiti na L5.

Low learning skillovi - Analytical mind (INT), Empathy (CHA), Instant recall (MEM), Iron will (WIL), Spatial Awareness (PER) - prvo, nakon learning skilla na L5, podici MEM i INT na L4

High learning skillovi - Clarity (PER), Eldetic memory (MEM), Focus (WIL), Logic rank (INT), Presence (CHA) - nakon MEM i INT low na L4, i ovdje treba dici na L3, nakon toga dici low na L5, pa high na L4, te onda ostale skillove po sistemu low na L4 onda high na L3, pa low na L5 i onda dokusuriti high skillove na L4. Dovrsiti ih na L5, ali nije potrebito odmah jer uzima puno vremena, a moja je preporuka da ih se pusta uchiti za long DT ili preko vikenda...

nadam se da je ovo zadnji puta da to pisem :))

Evo ja sam na moru, radim ko pas, ali sad cu kupit time code pa dat bratu da mi learna lika svaki dan. Dok dodjem doma bit ce sav nabrijan vec :)

The Ideal Learning Schedule

Given the formulae for learning skills, the ideal schedule for learning is below, "ideal" being wasting the least time getting the most skillpoints. Follow this schedule if you plan on staying in EVE for more than a few weeks as it will get you more skillpoints in useful skills in the long run.

Note that this schedule changed with Revelations, since the requirements for the second tier learning skills like Eidetic Memory were lowered from requiring level 5 in the first tier to requiring level 4 in the first tier. The current list seems optimal, but still needs to be verified.

Be sure to balance between learning skills and practical skills to maximize your enjoyment while playing EVE in the first few months. Its no fun to fly a rookie ship for two months because you're training nothing but learning skills. Additionally, advanced learning skills and attribute implants cost millions of ISK and you will need some practical skills to gather the funds to pay for them.

Using a skill planner such as EVEMon can help with your scheduling.

1. Instant Recall level I
2. Analytical Mind level I
3. Learning Level I
4. Instant Recall level II
5. Analytical Mind level II
6. Learning Level II
7. Instant Recall level III
8. Analytical Mind level III
9. Learning Level III
10. Instant Recall level IV
11. Eidetic Memory I
12. Eidetic Memory II
13. Eidetic Memory III1
14. Analytical Mind level IV
15. Learning Level IV
16. Logic I
17. Logic II
18. Logic III1
19. Eidetic Memory IV
20. Logic IV
21. Instant Recall level V
22. Analytical Mind V
23. Eidetic Memory V
24. Logic V
25. Learning V


Most people learn Eidetic Memory and Logic up to level III at least though, some go for level IV, level V is pretty much useless unless you plan to stay in EVE for years to come. It takes approximately2 20 days to reach Eidetic Memory III and Logic III and 24 to reach Eidetic Memory IV and Logic IV.

As training your other attributes initially relies on Memory and Intelligence you should wait to train Spatial Awareness, Iron Will or Empathy until you have trained your Memory and Intellegence as far as they can go and obtained attribute enhancing implants (see below). Once complete, here is the ideal schedule for training your other attributes.

1. Spacial Awareness, Iron Will and Empathy in any combination up to IV.
2. Presence I
3. Focus I
4. Clarity I
5. Presence II
6. Focus II
7. Clarity II
8. Presence III
9. Focus III
10. Clarity III
11. Presence IV
12. Focus IV
13. Clarity IV
14. Empathy V
15. Iron Will V
16. Spatial Awareness V
17. Presence V
18. Focus V
19. Clarity V


If you start playing with a new character and have some isk to invest into it, it is highly recommended to get attribute implants. Particularly the Memory and Intelligence ones, since they'll speed up the learning of Learning skills even more.3

1If you decide the payoff isn't good enough on Eidetic Memory III or over, skip ahead to Analytical Mind VI. In that case, you probably won't need Logic III or over or Learning V either.

2Assuming balanced stats: 8 in Int and Mem and 7 or 8 in other stats.

3The time to train Cybernetics I, necessary for attribute implants, is negligable. However its prerequisite, Science III, can take half a day.

zgodan guide.. Svi koji zapoèinju u EVE i planiraju ostati malko duže trebali bi proèitati ovo.
Pritom naglašavam reèenicu koja se skriva u ovom postu:
(prevedeno): ako želite poveæati užitak igranja EVE, slobodno potrošite malko vremena u praktiène skilove (osim learning skilova) kako bi zaradili štogod para i da vam ne bude previše dosadno.

Z.

slazem se deca...samo to jos prevedite za neke ljude koji si to ne znaju prevesti i bit ce mrak...pohvalee

Learning skilovi sluze ponajprije UBRZAVANJU UCENJA drugih skilova. Ovaj popis je slozen tako da se gubi najmanje vremena savladavajuci learning skilove (prvi ubrzava drugog, drugi treceg itd...). Koristite ovaj popis ako namjeravate igrati EVE duze od 2 mjeseca :) U pocetku ca vam trebati nesto love za knjige, pa slobodno izucite i neke druge korisne vjestine.

1. Instant Recall level I
2. Analytical Mind level I
3. Learning Level I
4. Instant Recall level II
5. Analytical Mind level II
6. Learning Level II
7. Instant Recall level III
8. Analytical Mind level III
9. Learning Level III
10. Instant Recall level IV
11. Eidetic Memory I
12. Eidetic Memory II
13. Eidetic Memory III1
14. Analytical Mind level IV
15. Learning Level IV
16. Logic I
17. Logic II
18. Logic III1
19. Eidetic Memory IV
20. Logic IV
21. Instant Recall level V
22. Analytical Mind V
23. Eidetic Memory V
24. Logic V
25. Learning V


Vecina ljudi natjera Eidetic Memory and Logic do 3 lvla, 4 i 5 level vam koriste samo ako planirate igrati godinama.

Od ATRIBUTA u pocetku vam trebaju Memory and Intelligence ponajvise, tek kad njih nasvirate dokraja mozete se pozabaviti ostalim learning skilovima koji popravljaju Spatial Awareness, Iron Will or Empathy.

1. Spacial Awareness, Iron Will and Empathy in any combination up to IV.
2. Presence I
3. Focus I
4. Clarity I
5. Presence II
6. Focus II
7. Clarity II
8. Presence III
9. Focus III
10. Clarity III
11. Presence IV
12. Focus IV
13. Clarity IV
14. Empathy V
15. Iron Will V
16. Spatial Awareness V
17. Presence V
18. Focus V
19. Clarity V

Ako ste novi igrac pokusajte uloziti u implants koji poboljsavaju Memory and Intelligence jer vam oni jos vise pomazu u treniranju svih skilova (ukljucujuci i Learning skilova).
*Za implante vam trebaju Cybernetics I i Science III sto traje oko 12h sve skupa.

super prijevod :)